---- By J. L. Speranza
------------- I AM CONSIDERING various interfaces, if that's the expression between Carnap and Grice for a project with R. B. Jones.
I am amused that Carnap, like I did with 'gene' theory -- according to Kramer -- 'reinvented' the "Ramsey sentence", i.e. he had thought about it, and it was H. Feigl who pointed out to him that Ramsey's posthumous paper, 'Theories,' covered much the same ground.
When Grice was, at long last, considering 'theory' seriously, he was, expectedly enough, fascinated by the Ramsey sentence. By this time, Lewis had played with it quite a bit, and talked of 'modified Ramsey sentence'.
For Grice, the iota-operator is the litmus. It's, for Grice, mere "way of Ramsified naming", when no uniqueness realisation is meant, or full "way of Ramsified definition" when it is.
--- In any case, googling for "Ramsey sentence" I came across this which bears on Grice,
avoid ambiguity:
Ramsay sentence disappoints Aboriginal leaders. (Goliath Business)... prosecutor Dennis Murray said sentences vary because each case is unique and has to ...
goliath.ecnext.com/.../Ramsay-sentence-disappoints-Aboriginal-leaders.html
--- JLS
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I think you have the formal definition of comedy here. Ramsey sentences generate a taxonomy by replacing the theoretical terms with variables and existentially quantifying into the result, thus creating a reference-neutral syllogism. It could apply to anything. But might not..uh..maybe not in particular extension? or
ReplyDeleteDunno! I was just amused that this Ramsay was not Ramsey. Note the idiotic google (I love google):
ReplyDeleteI type "Ramsey" "sentence" "unique" and it retrives this thing about the aboriginal leaders who are disappointed by the uniqueness of the RamsAy sentence!
Since both "RamsEy" and "RamsAy" are pronounced identically, and most likely mean the same thing back in Scots, I was amused. So I thought: how do addresses of utterances are so genial that on hearing
/'ramzi/
they sometimes _know_ it Frank Plumpton Ramsey, the author of "Theories",
but sometimes
RamsAy, the man who disappointed aboriginal leaders. Ah well.
Formal comedy!? I love it, Ian! -- I think there are serious problems with Ramsey and feel free to post a post with the appropriate heading, because this one is just, I suppose, for 'ambiguity' of THAT type. Concerning 'surnames' which are meant NOT to have meaning in any case, so how can one be 'ambiguous' with them?! :) (If you get my drift)
From the link provided above. Suppose you are HEARING the news, from Canadian TV, of course:
ReplyDelete"British-Columbia Judge, David /'ramzi/ was sentenced to 7 years in prison, a term aboriginal leaders think is far too short for what they say are race-based crimes. /'ramzi/ was convicted of 1 count of sexual assault causing bodily harm, 1 count of breach of trust and 3 counts of buying sex from minors. His victims, 4 Native girls, were teenagers at the time of the incidents and 1 was just 12 y.-old."
"/'ramzi/ paid the girls for sex."
"/'ramzi/ could have received a maximum of 14 years."
"The British Crown asked for a sentence of between 3 and 5 years."
""The sentencing is so inconsistent," said Susanne Point."
"Sentencing is a complex process. In sentencing proceedings there's so many factors that have to be taken into account to be fair to everybody," Murray said.
"Point said /'ramzi/ apologized for his actions."
"The RCMP has been criticized by many for taking 3 years to charge /'ramzi/."
---- I know, in bad taste, and Ramsay/Ramsey is a pretty common surname.
Oddly, L. M. Tapper -- and it's true! -- told me that if he were to describe himself physically, he'd say: "Frank Plumpton Ramsey", and it's true!
What a genius Frank Plumpton Ramsey was!