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Monday, March 29, 2010

How many angels?

Grice, Anglo philosophy, and 'mean'
---- by JLS
------- for the GC

---- HAVING JUST POSTED ON ALL that verbal pyrotechnic that the Latin language allows ('implicatum', 'implicans', 'implicanda', 'implicatio', etc.) one wonders. I don't!

But allow me a few points:

(1) Had it not been by the fact (it is a fact) that English philosophy is what it is, Grice would not have been what he has been. I.e. all the distinctions he tried to make: 'natural, non-natural meaning', 'implicature', etc. make little sense in languages with a stronger 'continental' tradition.

(2) Grice's point is partly sophistic or scholastic -- he does quote "How many angels...?". He was not interested in 'conversation' (let alone in 'implicature') per se, but only as manoeuvres to deal with some trends in the philosophy of his day (the polemic 'meaning' versus 'use', for example).

(3) His was an 'applied' philosophy of language. One reads linguists' reading of Grice and you might think that, hey, this philosopher (if philosopher you think he was -- the OED does not: 'British linguist' he gets defined as) was onto language. But he was not. He was, properly, onto philosophy. His philosophy of language is schematic and meant to provide some background to his philosophical distinctions of a more abstract, theoretical nature (in 'ontology', and properly, 'theory of perception').

(4) Etc.

2 comments:

  1. How much abstract than a word to you wish to be? Is there a limbo of non-reference that exceeds even the expression/implicatur thereto?

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  2. Well, yes. The idea of an "angel" is controversial. I guess my favourite angelic quote is Pope Gregory: "They would be angels, were they not angles". "Angel" is totally literal in Greek: it means plain "messenger". The Christians, of course, confused it all, when they represented your little "putti" of Italian pictorial tradition as the Cupidus of the angelic conversation. Oddly D. Jarman has a film thus called, apparently in Latin. Ah well.

    Grice mentions, "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" as the epitome of an otiose (philosophical) query. Of course, there are serious issues involved. If, for St. Augustine, an angel is an "immaterial" thing, the answer could range from zero (to use the title of A. K.´s book) to the infinite.

    Grice refers to that question in his "Prejudices and Predilections", which may well be worth a re-read. He is considering objections to "ordinary language philosophy" and how little it dealt with real-life problems (so-called). Etc.

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