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Sunday, February 28, 2010

holi ma kitti lucu chi chi chi (Was: The Saga of Jenny)

---- By J. L. S., for the Grice Club.

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In "Comment" to "Riddles of the Sphynx" Kramer and I are analyising Marilyn vos Savant ("the most intelligent woman on earth") and her account of fallacies; in particular, 'to the mercyful heart', or, as she prefers, 'ad misericordiam'. This, she says, is usually a very good fallacy: it provides very good samples of very good _bad_ arguments.

Consider a missionary in Tonga. In general, Anglican missionaries are _allowed_ to marry (or date) the natives, etc. This one (missionary) spots a maiden, with whom he'll gladly make a date. By the time the maiden can provide what, in Gricean parlance, we would have as "her conversational move" (it may be a countermove), the missionary may confide, "it is usually too late"

Jenny's problem was, incidentally, the inverse:

Jenny made her mind up when she was twelve
That into furrin languages she would delve.
But at seventeen to Vassar, it was quite a blow,
That in twenty-four languages she couldn't say "no".

JL

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Ref. A Tongan Dictionary:

holi ma kitti lucu chi chi chi, adv. yes.

2 comments:

  1. Ref. A Tongan Dictionary:

    holi ma kitti lucu chi chi chi, adv. yes.


    Then, thank God Molly Bloom wasn't Tongan.

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  2. From wiki, now a major film with Ewan McGregor -- based on the life of Norah Barnacle:

    Joyce ("Molly Bloom") writes:

    "I was a Flower of the mountain

    yes

    when I put the rose in my hair

    like the Andalusian girls used

    or shall I wear a red

    yes

    and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought

    well as well him as another and

    then I asked him with my eyes to ask

    again

    yes

    and then he asked me would I

    yes

    to say

    yes

    my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him

    yes

    and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume

    yes

    and his heart was going like mad and

    yes

    I said

    yes

    I will

    Yes. "

    From wiki:

    "The episode both begins and ends with "yes," a word that Joyce described as "the female word"."

    ""Yes" indicates "acquiescence and the end of all resistance"".

    Do we know Tongan for the antonym?

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