By Lawrence Helm
enowning posted the following comment in regard to my post "Albert Kissler examining Faye's "smoking gun"":
To my mind one needs to seperate Heidegger's actions with the Nazis and his culpability (or lack of prescience, if you will) from his works. Mathematicians, scientists, engineers, don't have this problem; if an equation is correct and useful, it is a good equation irrespective of the history of the person who thought it up.
The notion that Heidegger's insights are wrong because of his acts, is a symptom of political correctness gone wild.
Lawrence's response: A fascinating subject! To what extent ought our thoughts -- or to narrow it down, the non-philosophical thoughts of a philosopher be associated with his works? This is an old subject in theology: A pagan emperor renounced the Christian views of his predecessor and demanded that all Christians renounce their faith or they would be executed. Many did just that -- precursors of the French Collaborators. Later after the pagan emperor, the Pagan collaborators wanted to become Christians again. But elements in the church ruled that they had renounced their faith for good. They were doomed to hell for their perfidy. This was quite controversial in the Church in those days -- even more controversial than the extent to which Heidegger ought to be blamed for Nazi crimes. The Church finally ruled that denying one's faith as a result of coercion was not an unforgivable sin. That didn't sit well with the hard-liners, but that is the position that won out in the long run.
To my mind one needs to seperate Heidegger's actions with the Nazis and his culpability (or lack of prescience, if you will) from his works. Mathematicians, scientists, engineers, don't have this problem; if an equation is correct and useful, it is a good equation irrespective of the history of the person who thought it up.
The notion that Heidegger's insights are wrong because of his acts, is a symptom of political correctness gone wild.
Lawrence's response: A fascinating subject! To what extent ought our thoughts -- or to narrow it down, the non-philosophical thoughts of a philosopher be associated with his works? This is an old subject in theology: A pagan emperor renounced the Christian views of his predecessor and demanded that all Christians renounce their faith or they would be executed. Many did just that -- precursors of the French Collaborators. Later after the pagan emperor, the Pagan collaborators wanted to become Christians again. But elements in the church ruled that they had renounced their faith for good. They were doomed to hell for their perfidy. This was quite controversial in the Church in those days -- even more controversial than the extent to which Heidegger ought to be blamed for Nazi crimes. The Church finally ruled that denying one's faith as a result of coercion was not an unforgivable sin. That didn't sit well with the hard-liners, but that is the position that won out in the long run.
I recall that in the 19th century, I think it was, a respected theologian named George Bush renounced his orthodox Christianity and accepted the views of Emmanuel Swedenborg. He wrote several very sound commentaries that are still in use today, but not in use by everyone. Many thought that his subsequent heterodoxy invalidated his previous orthodox writings. And there have been many cases where pastors or evangelists have after a long time rejected Christianity. What did that mean for all that they did prior to that time -- all the baptisms and marriages they had performed. The Church (including Protestant denominations) determined that it was the "word" that was to be examined for validity and not the speaker of the word.
Moving back to Heidegger, I believe that enowning is saying something very like what the Church said. Heidegger's "words" should be considered apart from other things Heidegger may have believed -- unless it can be shown that they were connected in some way. And neither Farias nor Faye have managed to show that.
Moving to your contrast with mathematicians, scientists, and engineers, I found it interesting that Alfred Tarski considered himself a nominalist. On page 52 of Alfred Tarski, Life and Logic (by Anita and Solomon Feferman), Tarski is quoted as saying "'I am a nominalist. This is a very deep conviction of mine. It is so deep, indeed, that even after my third reincarnation, I will still be a nominalist' He went on, 'People have asked me, 'How can you, a nominalist, do work in set theory and logic, which are theories about things you do not believe in?' . . . I believe that there is value even in fairy tales and the study of fairy tales.'"
Was Heidegger more culpable for sincerely supporting an ideology that later was responsible for heinous acts than Tarski for insincerely engaging in mathematical and logical work? Of course I would have difficulty pursuing my culpability charge when logicians and mathematicians have been nomanlistic at least since the days they proposed that a tortoise would defeat Achilles in a foot race.
I would like to play devil´s advocate vis a vis enowing. We expect there´s something deeper than political correctness run wild, as he puts it.
ReplyDeleteWhat about, "philosophy is entire". In fact, Grice´s dictum, which I hope to have it engraved in my grave one day is, "Philosophy, like virtue, is entire". What a phrase! I am even tempted to translate it to Latin and Greek (philosophia virtus, philosophia arete, etc.).
Now, it IS true that philosophy is not what it used to! In Grice´s days, philosophers, at least at Oxford, only held Lit.Hum. MA. By the time of Grice´s teaching career he was teaching students (like Strawson) in the PPE programme, which, in Oxford, stands for Philosophy, Politics, and Economics. If *I* had graduated with that degree, surely I would find it part of my commitment as a PPE graduate (like the present Prime Minister in England, D. Cameron) to air my Politics, and not just my Econ., ... oops, I mean, my Philosophy!
---- Now, with Heidegger it may ALL be different! I´m unaware of the type of education in philosophy he received, but their habilitation things and their gymns have a bit of political weltanschauung about them.
Now, it IS amusing that the author of "Sein und Zeit" (being and time, no less!) should be made a point about the continuity of one´s identity across time! Grice´s first paper was indeed, in a way, about being and time ("Personal Identity", 1941, Mind). Grice claims that spatio-temporal continuity is NOT a criterion: memory is. So, if Heidegger renounced the memories of his former self, it was indeed a different Heidegger. Nobody in Oxford took Grice´s theory too seriously. Perhaps because Strawson thought he was being witty by proposing the criterion of spatio-temporal continuity instead (the concept of a "person", and other essays -- the title of one of his many collections). It was only with the revival of Griceianism in the work of D. Parfit ("Reasons and Persons") that people started to take with some sort of seriousness the mnemic approach to personal identity (not without problems, for sure -- but stemming from the best of the English empiricist philosophy since Locke.
To top things off, Grice was seriously engaged in the metaphysics of being and time. This was in work with Myro. They wanted to follow Geach´s and Wiggins´s ideas that
a = b
is contingent. Thus,
Heidegger = a non-Nazi (in 1929, when Sein und Zeit was published)
Heidegger = a Nazi (when he joined the party in 1933).
Heidegger = a non-Nazi, when he gave his interview for Spiegel, or something.
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Now, one may wonder about the construction, "a non-Nazi". A non-Nazi what? But you get my drift. The identity (Heidegger would perhaps say essence, if he could find the German word for it) of "Heidegger" is time-relative, at best!
How does this combine with the mnemic approach to PERSONAL identity?
Well, the real problem here is the Reid sufferer of amnesia. I wouldn´t be surprised if people could claim that after the liberation of Germany from the Nazis many underwent this amnesia, with consequences to any Gricean theory of mnemic personal identity and time-relative Leibnizian identity, into the very bargain!
When I read your title, I thought you were going to argue that Tarski had been found to have been pro-Nazi, too!
Heidegger argues that he didn't change over time. That his hope for German National Socialism was that it would become the "spiritual leader" of Western Europe. Evidence of his saying things to support that does exist. Why didn't he resign from the Nazi Party when his ideas were rejected? That is another matter, but he has his reasons for not resigning as well -- that the party when he joined was potentially what he hoped it would become. He, even during the later interview with Spiegel didn't renounce National Socialism as he hoped it would become back in 1933/34. And there are those in Russia building a kinder gentler National Socialism even as we speak.
ReplyDeleteDonal seems to be ignorant of the Heidegger evidence (pro and con) and to be unable to see what it is that Tarski might be culpable of. Perhaps I have cleared that up in a subsequent note, but probably not.
Lawrence