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Thursday, June 17, 2010

Grice in court

From online source:

"Prosecution Linguist appealed to Grice's (1975) Co-operative Principle, ... the flaws in his work until his cross-examination and the subsequent testimony of ..."


privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~patrickp/papers/CreoleTranscripts.pdf

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"Brown was convicted of numerous criminal charges including six murders".

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2 comments:

  1. Who said linguinistics was useless or impractical?? Jah, mahn--peoples be representin' Murder in the first degree.

    This looks more like socio-linguistics Bloomfield, Labov or some other egghead than Gricean-ism, however. In some cases I imagine the pros. or defense would need to unravel the implication, or just meaning of a particular utterance --same for gangster slang, or "thieves jargon." Downtown LA they have a similar problem with asian gangs--how's yr mandarin or thai, JL gaijin? A career as East Asian Gang-specialist Socio-linguist Tech I with the LA DA's office awaits thee.

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  2. Yes. It is a trick. There was a comment on the other post of mine, "Grice on felony trial" by Dinah. (I get updates of comments to posts). She was suggesting a list of criminal attorneys in the San Francisco area. Ah well).

    Yes, the pdf mentioned above was just impossible to decipher. The point was about some "Argument D" from what I recall. Since it was in pdf I could not copy and paste, and the thing was just impossible for ME to transcribe. So argument D held that the move in the cross examination was 'uncooperative'. Apparently it was: "Did you go to the store that night or not?", "The weather has been delightful this last summer, no?". It was SO against anything Gricean that I lost my patience. I don't think he (the convicted criminal) was implicating anything -- or thinking in logical formal terms alla Russell's Principia Mathematica in any case. He used double negatives, too, which already IS a bother for people like Grice -- vide Cohen, "Professor Grice on the nature of logical particles in English" -- (Cohen was, unlike Grice, more of a Cockney chap, and he is VERY familiar with the use of double negatives in London, "We don't want to more bear", heard in a pub, and odd as it sounds, means that the person, for one, does not want ANY more bear" -- this Cohen thought refuted Grice on ~~p iff p. The sad thing is that Cohen continued to argue after Walker's excellent dismissal of his view (Cohen, "Can the conversationalist hypothesis be still defended?" Philosophical Studies).

    I don't know if a course in formal logic -- followed by Harnish, "Implicature and Logical Form" -- should not be held too improper to have before selected cross-examinations. Or stuff.

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