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Monday, June 14, 2010

"I only said 'if'"

--- by JLS
for the GC

J comments in "only if":

"Note that Alice is essentially correct, and uses the conditional as hypothetical--but the Reginas react as if she offered, like, a fact-statement (and as with most Carroll, there are political implications...)."

Too true. For the record, I elliptically cut (I love the occasional redundancy) most of what happened between Alice's terse conditional:

"If I were a Queen, ..."

and the White Queen's not-so-hyperbolic reaction. One may think that the Red Queen was overreacting with "She said a great deal more than 'if'" if all she had to complain about was the 'apodosis' of Alice's casual remark. For the record, too, she was thinking to herself, and could not know that her 'if' statement would have had an addressee. So this below is the original Carroll:

---

"Well, this is grand!" said Alice.

"I never expected I should be a Queen so soon--and I'll tell you what it is, your Majesty," she went on, in a severe tone (she was always rather fond of scolding herself).

"It'll never do for you to be lolling about on the grass like that! Queens have to be dignified, you know!"

So she got up and walked about--rather stiffly just at first, as she was afraid that the crown might come off.

But she comforted herself with the thought that there was nobody to see her,


`and IF I really am a Queen,' she said as she sat down again,

`I shall be able to manage it quite well in time.'

-------------------- HER PROPOSITION:

"If I really am a Queen, I shall be able to manage it quite well in time."

------------------------------- Form: "if p, q"

----

"Everything was happening so oddly that she didn't feel a
bit surprised at finding the Red Queen and the White Queen
sitting close to her, one on each side."

"She would have liked very much to ask them how they
came there, but she feared it would not be quite
civil. However, there would be no harm, she thought, in asking
if the game was over."

"Please, would you tell me--", she began, looking timidly at the Red Queen.

"Speak when you're spoken to!",
the Queen sharply interrupted her.

"But if everybody obeyed that rule," said Alice, who was always ready for a little argument, `and if you only spoke when you were spoken to, and the other person always waited for you to begin, you see nobody would ever say anything, so that--"

"Ridiculous!" cried the Queen.

"Why, don't you see, child--" here she broke off with a frown, and,
after thinking for a minute, suddenly changed
the subject of the conversation."

------ RATHER SHE RESUMED TO AN EARLIER BIT IN ALICE'S DISCOURSE.

"`What do you mean by,"If you really are a Queen"?

What right have you to call yourself so?

You can't be a Queen, you know, till you've passed the proper examination.

And the sooner we begin it, the better.'"

------

"I only said "if"!" poor Alice pleaded in a piteous tone.

----

The two Queens looked at each other, and the Red Queen remarked, with a little shudder:

"She says she only said "if"--"

"But she said a great deal more than that!"
the White Queen moaned, wringing her hands.
"Oh, ever so much more than that!"

"So you did, you know," the Red Queen said to Alice.

"Always speak the truth--think before you speak--and write it down afterwards."

"I'm sure I didn't mean--" Alice was beginning, but the Red Queen interrupted her impatiently.

"That's just what I complain of! You should have meant! What do you suppose is the use of a child without any meaning? Even a joke should have some meaning--and a child's more important than a joke, I hope. You couldn't deny that, even if you tried with both hands.'

"I don't deny things with my hands," Alice objected.

"Nobody said you did,' said the Red Queen. "I said you couldn't if you tried."

"She's in that state of mind', said the White Queen "that she wants to deny something--only she doesn't know what to deny!".

"A nasty, vicious temper," the Red Queen remarked."

Which has been referred to, nastily as negaholic.

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