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Tuesday, July 13, 2010

Myro on System G in "Time and Essence" -- another link

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120154291/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
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4 comments:

  1. Roger Bishop JonesJuly 14, 2010 at 2:29 AM

    Still doesn't work.
    The site uses cookies and raises objections.
    Can you tell us how you found the page?

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  2. Luigi SperanzaJuly 14, 2010 at 9:42 AM

    Matter of fact, the best one can do is retrieve the FIRST page of that essay. I suppose if you go to google.com and write ""Time and essence" Myro" you'd get the link. There is a reference to the System G at the bottom of that page. The other cite from the same essay -- NOT the first page -- I found via googling. I find that some essays that have restricted access one can read rather a lot by just googling for exact matches of phrases and so.

    In any case, I did write the complete page references from Myro's OTHER essay, his "Time and Identity", in PGRICE. There are references to System G at various places there, all of which I copied for the Club. He notes that he (Myro) shall call the thing the System G, and repeats the claim ("Time and Essence" is ALSO dated 1986, but "Time and Identity" must have been written earlier on since it was published in 1986) that System G is only a "rather minor modification" of PCI (predicate calculus with identity). He further mentions a 'mimicked' simulated semantics, and distinguishes between sentences and proto-sentences, and makes references to the 'inference-rules', etc. His interest (Myro's) was other than Grice in "Vacuous Names", but there ARE overlaps in the idea of a simple presentation of a 'language'. Etc.

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  3. Roger Bishop JonesJuly 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    I found the first page, thanks.
    And I know about the PGRICE one, which is omitted from the Google books version.

    Probably I won't go into it, better to stick with system Q, I'll say some more at "The City".

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  4. Luigi SperanzaJuly 14, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    Good. Yes, I retrieved the Google books version -- and I did a 'search' within that google book (I do have a hard copy of the book, somewhere!) -- so I then pasted all the references to the System G as per Myro in PGRICE, which I copied to the Club in a flurry or succession of posts. Just in case one comes with an interesting collocation, e.g. 'simulated semantics for System G', and feels that one wants to know what Myro is talking about or whether we should care!

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