Speranza
it rains pennies from heaven -- a Gricean penny from the Gricean heaven, as it were.
Just to bring to furter attention this commentary.
Abigail the
Fearless left a comment on the ""What
Is 'It'?" -- A Gricean Answer to a Strawsonian Question":
"Hi all,
I'm
writing a paper on this very topic for a class on semantics of anaphora,
offering additional evidence, with my own additional pieces of evidence which I
think suggest that the "weather it" is not vacuous. However, I've been having
trouble finding good sources. I've pored and pored, and found lots of mentions
of different philosophers and linguists who've argued both sides, but few actual
references. I was wondering if any of you could suggest anything specific? Any
help would be very much appreciated!
Sincerely,
An intrigued student."
Well, I think just QUOTING Strawson is pretty good!
Grice I would think started to _love_ to think about these questions much later in his career. The introductory (general) bits to his seldom quoted, "Actions and Events", for the Pacific Philosophical Quarterly, gives a good summary of what his views about the interface between, shall we say, 'surface grammar' and 'logical form' was, and he provides some delightful examples that compare to the "Strawsonian" question ("what is "it"?).
Grice was by then interacting with DAVIDSON more than with Strawson, having moved to Berkeley.
It may do to compare with other languages, too: There's English, there's Griceish, and there may be others.
Grice was proud of having learnt (or learned, I never learn which is correct) Greek back at Clifton, in Bristol. He knew Latin well. So, he would regard the expression of weather in such lingos as good evidence, for something.
When Gellner (a French philosopher) criticised the Oxford group of philosophers, the point was made that THEY were good at things most people (most OTHER people) are not good at: precisely the command and sensibility for the nuances of idiom that a classical education provides.
I would think this may also profit from a study in METEOROLOGY. We could start with a bit of "linguistic botany", as Grice would say -- and after all, talk about the weather IS the Brit passtime -- lovingly ironised in that nice number of that old musical comedy,"The arcadians":
"It's nice and warm -- I think that we should have a lovely day."
Oh what very charming weather!